Saturday, 30 April 2011

[satsang] Any term for the Ultimate is a slippery slope....

Richard Young posted in satsang
Any term for the Ultimate is a slippery slope. Knowing that, we still try to communicate in words because...well, that's what we humans do. Awareness Presence is as good a term as any and perhaps somewhat better than others in that it reflects two undeniable and easily perceived aspects of our own experience: (1) we exist and (2) we are aware. Fully understood, this term refers to the "potential' or the "infinite possibilities" for existence or manifestation, as we are now discovering in quantum physics. Whatever we call this principle, we should remember that it doesn't exist (as we understand existence) and, as the ancient Chan masters knew, it does not NOT exist. This double negative takes in all possibilities of existence and non-existence, being and mulitiplicity, that the Eastern sages and Western philopsophers going back to Democritus explored and attempted to articulate.   But none of these words and concepts are IT. So we are free to call it what we will: Love, God, Being, Nonbeing, Sunyata, Emptiness, Godhead, etc. ect. ect. Each word emphasizes the aspect(s) that we ourselves most need to hear and actualize in our lives. But we must always hold in mind that we are ascribing aspects to that which, by definition, is the womb of all aspects and therefore cannot have any aspects at all. And finally, IT is that which is using the words to inadequately describe that which IT is/isn't.   Perhaps we should take the advice of so many Zen masters and just keep silent.  NAWWWWWWWW! What fun would be that be? :-)
Richard Young 30 April 17:13
Any term for the Ultimate is a slippery slope. Knowing that, we still try to communicate in words because...well, that's what we humans do. Awareness Presence is as good a term as any and perhaps somewhat better than others in that it reflects two undeniable and easily perceived aspects of our own experience: (1) we exist and (2) we are aware. Fully understood, this term refers to the "potential' or the "infinite possibilities" for existence or manifestation, as we are now discovering in quantum physics. Whatever we call this principle, we should remember that it doesn't exist (as we understand existence) and, as the ancient Chan masters knew, it does not NOT exist. This double negative takes in all possibilities of existence and non-existence, being and mulitiplicity, that the Eastern sages and Western philopsophers going back to Democritus explored and attempted to articulate.

But none of these words and concepts are IT. So we are free to call it what we will: Love, God, Being, Nonbeing, Sunyata, Emptiness, Godhead, etc. ect. ect. Each word emphasizes the aspect(s) that we ourselves most need to hear and actualize in our lives. But we must always hold in mind that we are ascribing aspects to that which, by definition, is the womb of all aspects and therefore cannot have any aspects at all. And finally, IT is that which is using the words to inadequately describe that which IT is/isn't.

Perhaps we should take the advice of so many Zen masters and just keep silent.

NAWWWWWWWW! What fun would be that be? :-)

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Re: [satsang] May 2nd and 3rd Yoga of Silence with Madhukarji...

Sweet,pure Grace <3 <3 <3
Prema Vanina 30 April 10:12
Sweet,pure Grace ♥ ♥ ♥
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Shivani Allgaier
Shivani Allgaier30 April 01:44
May 2nd and 3rd Yoga of Silence with Madhukarji in Amsterdam

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[satsang] May 2nd and 3rd Yoga of Silence with Madhukarji...

Shivani Allgaier posted in satsang
May 2nd and 3rd Yoga of Silence with Madhukarji in Amsterdam
Shivani Allgaier 30 April 08:44
May 2nd and 3rd Yoga of Silence with Madhukarji in Amsterdam

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Friday, 29 April 2011

[satsang] "From joy all beings have come, by joy they all...

Patrick Cabeza De Baca posted in satsang
"From joy all beings have come, by joy they all live, and unto joy they all return."  "Where there is joy, there is creation.  Where there is no joy, there is no creation. Know the nature of joy."   UPANISHADS
Patrick Cabeza De Baca 30 April 06:01
"From joy all beings have come, by joy they all live, and unto joy they all return."

"Where there is joy, there is creation. Where there is no joy, there is no creation.
Know the nature of joy."

UPANISHADS

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Re: [satsang] My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen...

Ирек Ахметович Ахметов commented on Angesh Naipaul's post in satsang
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Om Shiva
Om Shiva
Om Shiva29 April 10:30
weird, I just wanted to check if this is a quote and then I found this :
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Angesh Naipaul
Angesh Naipaul29 April 06:49
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?

Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You by Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...

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Re: [satsang] Let us keep in mind the beautiful children of the...

Ирек Ахметович Ахметов commented on Janet Carpenter's post in satsang
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Janet Carpenter
Janet Carpenter29 April 21:57
Let us keep in mind the beautiful children of the rainbow who benefit from the paths toward light that we blaze. Let the simple beauty of their laugher in turn light our journey . . . with encouragment, respect and love ♥

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[satsang] Let us keep in mind the beautiful children of the...

Janet Carpenter posted in satsang
Let us keep in mind the beautiful children of the rainbow who benefit from the paths toward light that we blaze. Let the simple beauty of their laugher in turn light our journey . . . with encouragment, respect and love ♥
Janet Carpenter 30 April 04:57
Let us keep in mind the beautiful children of the rainbow who benefit from the paths toward light that we blaze. Let the simple beauty of their laugher in turn light our journey . . . with encouragment, respect and love ♥

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Re: [satsang] My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen...

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Om Shiva
Om Shiva29 April 10:30
weird, I just wanted to check if this is a quote and then I found this :
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Angesh Naipaul
Angesh Naipaul29 April 06:49
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?

Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You by Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...

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Re: [satsang] My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen...

weird, I just wanted to check if this is a quote and then I found this :
Om Shiva 29 April 17:30
weird, I just wanted to check if this is a quote and then I found this :
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Angesh Naipaul
Angesh Naipaul29 April 06:49
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?

Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You by Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...

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[satsang] "Spirit is that which transcends everything and...

Richard Young posted in satsang
"Spirit is that which transcends everything and includes everything. Or, in traditional terms, spirit is both completely transcendent to the world and completely immanent in the world--and there is the most notorious (and unavoidable) pardox of spirit. On the one hand, then spirit is the highest of all possible domains; it is the Summit of all realms, the Being beyond all beings. It is the domain that is a subset of no other domain, and thus preserves its radically transcendatal nature. On the other hand, since spirit is all-pervading and all-inclusive, since it is the set of all possible sets, the Condition of all conditions and the Nature of all natures, it is not properly thought of as a realm set apart from other realms, but as the Ground or Being of all realms, the pure THAT of which all manifestations is but a play or modification. And thus spirit preserves (paradoxically) its radically immanent nature." ~ Ken Wilber
Richard Young 29 April 17:02
"Spirit is that which transcends everything and includes everything. Or, in traditional terms, spirit is both completely transcendent to the world and completely immanent in the world--and there is the most notorious (and unavoidable) pardox of spirit. On the one hand, then spirit is the highest of all possible domains; it is the Summit of all realms, the Being beyond all beings. It is the domain that is a subset of no other domain, and thus preserves its radically transcendatal nature. On the other hand, since spirit is all-pervading and all-inclusive, since it is the set of all possible sets, the Condition of all conditions and the Nature of all natures, it is not properly thought of as a realm set apart from other realms, but as the Ground or Being of all realms, the pure THAT of which all manifestations is but a play or modification. And thus spirit preserves (paradoxically) its radically immanent nature." ~ Ken Wilber

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Re: [satsang] I see how all my attempts to be someone special,...

Martijn van der Veen commented on his post in satsang.
Dear two, I am under the impression that you moight know what I meant to say...<3
Martijn van der Veen 29 April 14:09
Dear two, I am under the impression that you moight know what I meant to say...♥
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Ralf Arthur Fritzinger
Ralf Arthur Fritzinger29 April 07:06
Dear one , this is not true, you will never lose your existence an Martijn ;)
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Martijn van der Veen
Martijn van der Veen29 April 07:04
I see how all my attempts to be someone special, Keeps me from loving you!
I see that when I really really love you, I no longer exist!
I ask you to help, help eachother to overcome our fear to loose ourselves...
And become the love that we are..
I love you! ...♥

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Dear one , this is not true, you will never lose your existence an Martijn ;)
Ralf Arthur Fritzinger 29 April 14:06
Dear one , this is not true, you will never lose your existence an Martijn ;)
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Martijn van der Veen
Martijn van der Veen29 April 07:04
I see how all my attempts to be someone special, Keeps me from loving you!
I see that when I really really love you, I no longer exist!
I ask you to help, help eachother to overcome our fear to loose ourselves...
And become the love that we are..
I love you! ...♥

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[satsang] I see how all my attempts to be someone special,...

Martijn van der Veen posted in satsang
I see how all my attempts to be someone special, Keeps me from loving you! I see that when I really really love you, I no longer exist! I ask you to help, help eachother to overcome our fear to loose ourselves... And become the love that we are.. I love you! ...♥
Martijn van der Veen 29 April 14:04
I see how all my attempts to be someone special, Keeps me from loving you!
I see that when I really really love you, I no longer exist!
I ask you to help, help eachother to overcome our fear to loose ourselves...
And become the love that we are..
I love you! ...♥

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[satsang] My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen...

Angesh Naipaul posted in satsang
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?  Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You by Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...
Angesh Naipaul 29 April 13:49
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?

Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You by Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...

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[satsang] My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen...

Angesh Naipaul posted in satsang
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?  Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could of love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You without Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...
Angesh Naipaul 29 April 13:31
My sweet Krishna! I am so happy that you listen to a most fallen soul like me...So what do you think of me?..I would like to think of You all the time...I never want to be happy without You...Only when I remember You alone excluding the world...I am most happy..I wish my mind can stay with You alone forever..When will I be cleansed of all mayik desires O Lord...How long do I have to be enslaved by maya? When will you come deceive my mind?

Come soon my beloved...for life is getting shorter every day and my Human life is wasting away on worldly wonders...If I could of love You on my own...I would of love you already... but one can only love You without Your grace..and to attain that grace one has to surrender to Your loving Saints...Please bless me to love and serve Your loving Saints selflessly with a dedicated mind and heart...I have said what I have to say now the rest is up to You....Strengthen my desire and resolve to wait for You alone always, forever and all eternity...I would love to say I love You..but I don't know what real love is, so I am waiting for You come....Jai Radhe..Radhe Radhe...

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Thursday, 28 April 2011

Re: [satsang] What are you looking for; you are already...

true ! swamiji, we, practicizing to be a complete divine soul!  On 4/29/11, Swami Vyom Sri
Yogi Pradeep 29 April 03:37
true !
swamiji, we, practicizing to be a complete divine soul!

On 4/29/11, Swami Vyom Sri
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Chris Collins
Chris Collins28 April 19:54
lol
Vanaja Ravinair
Vanaja Ravinair28 April 19:53
True...we are already liberated, only thing we do not realize it and seek for Moksha.
Chris Collins
Chris Collins28 April 19:53
are there any seekers left ? all i see is flocks of teachers
Chris Collins
Chris Collins28 April 19:50
yay
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Swami Vyom Sri
Swami Vyom Sri28 April 19:41
What are you looking for; you are already Divine'''''''''''''''''''''''''

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lol
Chris Collins 29 April 02:54
lol
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Vanaja Ravinair
Vanaja Ravinair28 April 19:53
True...we are already liberated, only thing we do not realize it and seek for Moksha.
Chris Collins
Chris Collins28 April 19:53
are there any seekers left ? all i see is flocks of teachers
Chris Collins
Chris Collins28 April 19:50
yay
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Swami Vyom Sri
Swami Vyom Sri28 April 19:41
What are you looking for; you are already Divine'''''''''''''''''''''''''

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